California Corporate conversions

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A few years back, California amended its corporation code to start allowing domesitc corporations and other entities to convert their form. For example, now a corporation could convert to LLC and vice versa,

The change also expressly allows foreign corporations to convert into California corporations, LLCs, etc.

But I saw nothing in the statute that allows a California corporation to convert into a foreign corporation.

I assume these means it can't be done.

I want to convert a California corp to a Texas corp. Texas law allows the conversion of a foreign corporation into a Texas corp as long as the laws of the state of the foreign corporation allow it. But since the California Corporations Code does not enumerate any such conversion, I don't think I can do it.

Anyone know about these conversions?
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  • Re: California Corporate conversions

    Wed, November 21, 2007 - 9:43 AM
    The California Secretary of State provides the following conversion information:

    "A California stock corporation (Domestic Corp) can convert into a domestic other business entity; a domestic
    limited liability company (LLC), limited partnership (LP) or general partnership (GP) can convert into a domestic or
    foreign other business entity; and a foreign business entity can convert into a Domestic Corp, LLC, LP or registered
    GP if the conversion is permitted under the laws of the jurisdiction of the foreign business entity. (California
    Corporations Code commencing with Sections 1150, 15677.1, 16901 and 17540.1.) Note: A Domestic Corp
    cannot convert to a foreign entity."

    "There are no statutory provisions in California allowing a domestic corporation to convert into a foreign corporation or a foreign
    other business entity. "

    www.sos.ca.gov/business/c...obeconv.pdf
    • Re: California Corporate conversions

      Wed, November 21, 2007 - 9:57 AM
      I'm just spitballing here, but does that not imply you could covert your Cal. corp. into a Cal. LLC/LP/GP, then convert that again into a Tex. business entity?
      • Re: California Corporate conversions

        Wed, November 21, 2007 - 11:45 AM
        Interesting thought, Weazie. Anyone thinking of doing so might want to consider the benefits (and any potential risks or drawbacks) of doing so, as opposed to dissolving the domestic corporation and reforming as a Texas corporation.

        I couldn't say whether there are actual risks or drawbacks associated with converting a domestic corp to some other domestic business entity and then into a foreign corp. I tend to believe there must be a reason why California presently does not allow conversion of a domestic corp into a foreign corp. and wouldn't want to go this route without knowing what the reason is.
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          Re: California Corporate conversions

          Sun, December 2, 2007 - 3:44 PM
          Thanks for the info, Naz.

          It confirms what I thought. Confirmation is good.

          I think the reason California does not allow its domestic entities to convert into foreign entities is because it does not want to lose the revenue from franchise tax. Once the California entity has converted to a foreign entity, then it can't collect anymore tax, unless, of course, the entity then registers as a foreign corporation in California.

          I'm just going to set up a Texas Corporation, dissolve the California corporation, distribute the assets to the California shareholders, then have them use these assets to purchase their shares in the Texas Corporation. Normally, I would want to avoid this because it would be a taxable event, but in this particular case, there would probably not be any actual taxes owed.

          Why are we doing this in the first place? The corporation moved to Texas and is no longer doing business in California. The easiset thing would have been to leave the California corporation in place, but register it as a foreign corporaiton in Texas, but we did not want to be subject to franchise taxes in two separate states, or be unnecessarily subject to jurisdiction in California.